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"In Moscow, we are talking with you" pn-se "- and this is very intimate!"
Film director Roman Ovseichuk about the Far Eastern memes, cultural codes and the struggle with the complex of the Khabarovsk provincial
Roman - chief editor of the producer company "Profi", ex-TV. In an informal conversation with East Russia, the indigenous Khabarovsk told about his attempts to become a Muscovite, the adaptation of the love of local celebrities to his city, the festival of feature films and torn templates. For you - the traditional rubric "Unsuccessful".
Hobbies, back and forth
- I traveled all over Russia and I have something to compare with. In Khabarovsk, I worked as a sports journalist. My work was connected with regular business trips, teams often took me with them to any competitions. I was abroad a little, but it also happened. Then I moved to Moscow to prove something to someone. Yourself, colleagues, wife then. And then my last wife, having lived in Moscow for 5 years, dispersed. I was in prostration, my mind was shaking, I did not understand how to proceed. The habitual way of life was disrupted. I went to Kiev, where I lived 2-3 months. And something began to tear off the roof. And the goals just do not arise, I did not understand what to do, and why do I wake up in the morning. I began to call Khabarovsk. Took my colleague Alla Jan-Sha, with whom we worked before I left together, and asked - is there a job? She said yes, there is. It was necessary to make a series of programs about small stars of big sports, about children. And this project was calculated until the end of 2011. In February 2011 I came here, and throughout this year I expected that I will live a year in Khabarovsk, I will do this project, I will bring my brains in order - and go home to Moscow. Then I was home to Moscow. But the closer December was, the more often I thought: what, in fact, should I do there?
All the time, while I was living in Moscow, despite the fact that friends appeared, friends and even some of my relatives lived there, anyway - no matter how I integrated into this city, but I was in Moscow as a removable apartment, you know. And the boys with whom I was friends, they knew the capital's yards since childhood, they went to some school with an 4-digit number, and naturally felt themselves at home in the capital. And if you are a visitor, then you seem to be living, and she seems to be yours, you've rebuilt everything under yourself, you've made all the master's furniture, but you understand that she, this conditional apartment, is still removable. Roughly speaking, you decide not to smoke in a hut or on a balcony, but the owner. And the same feelings I have in general from Moscow.
As for some large-scale things, then yes, there is more money. Roughly speaking, if I make a film with a budget of 100 thousand rubles or half a million here, then there I, doing such work, earn five times more. And in my films there are very different heroes. Here I have Lena Vertyankina, and there I will talk with a dude who is known by the whole country or half of Europe. But this is the scenery, the essence is the same - I still interview you, and you - me. And by and large, it seems to be such a childish thing when you tremble from the fact that you are interviewing a star whose poster hung over your bed as a child. Yes, it looks different, but the essence is the same as in Moscow, in Khabarovsk. You, the root of your life is the same. You still go to work, come home from work, raise children, make your living. And, in my opinion, these are my personal feelings (and I am not trying to convert anyone), - if in essence they are one and the same, then what difference does it make where? Rule Dosi: if there is no difference, why pay more? Yes, in Moscow there are more opportunities, but there I spend more. This is the mercantile side of the issue, which is also important. Our regional specifics, that you are forced to be a screenwriter, a director, a sound designer, and a producer, otherwise the fees are small.
Europe ≡ Asia
There are professions and activities that are very difficult to implement in the Far East. I apologize, but again everything depends on finance. Here, the number of people is less, respectively, in the language of marketing and economics (I am a graduate of the Department of Economics and Management of DWGAs, I'm used to think in such categories too), we уthe market, and the amount of money supply that rotates here, is also smaller. Some financial-intensive industries, the same cinema, a big show business, are unprofitable to develop here, they still will not be of such scale as in Moscow and St. Petersburg. It is very difficult to realize these things here, although people try. Take Vladivostok, there are some musical groups, for example, "Marlins" or "Starcardigan ". TOOf course, they do not have the same popularity as Ivan Dorn, but, nevertheless, they are touring Russia. In Khabarovsk there is a team of "Starkillers »that drives tours around the country. It's easier now than it was 20 years ago, but you still need to have, excuse me, stone forehead and steel ass. And it is difficult to deal with these areas here, and therefore it is more logical to go somewhere in the center and be realized there.
But I'm surprised when the guys-officials, accountants, office workers move there! Listen, I saw a bunch of people who moved from Khabarovsk and other cities of the country to Moscow. And their life really did not differ from what they had in Khabarovsk. So, they sit with 9 to 18 in the office, in the evening they have fun and watch TV, at the weekend they go out with their whole family - here in Sambury, there in Auchan. And on the weekend they go here for the river to Fuyuan, and there to Krakow, Poland. Well, yes, of course, it's closer to Europe, but here is Asia, which is also interesting! And from Moscow they also drive here to see Asia. What prevents us sometimes to travel to Europe? In my opinion, Europe and Asia are equally interesting, they are just closer to Europe, to us - Asia, well, you hasten it, there really is something to see. And at a price acceptable. China, Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam, both Korea, Taiwan. I'm not saying that Europe is bad, but after all, Asia is not worse, I would put a sign between them, not equality, but identity. And I'm not saying that living in St. Petersburg or Moscow is bad and you do not have to move there. These are great cities, but each has its own. I love Moscow very much, and as long as I lived there, I considered it my own. But, again, as long as I live here, I do not understand what is the fundamental difference. If you do not take the scenery and all the tinsel that Van Dam plays there, like in the song that Posner or somebody else lives there, if that's not the point to take it, then, listen, it's the same thing.
If we talk about some rabid patriotism, then in Khabarovsk I like everything. Since I - you can not believe it now - is an introvert. I don’t like a lot of people around me, I don’t like to speak in public, I’m talking quietly to you now, and it’s funny that there’s nobody besides us. I can broadcast to the camera, to broadcast, but at the same time I feel discomfort. My way of life, and how things are going with me - I cross my fingers, even though I am not a superstitious person. This is exactly what I want, I want to live in exactly this mode. The seventh year of my second life in Khabarovsk is running out, I live as I like. I have three children, the youngest is now 1,3. Plus, on the Sport FM-Khabarovsk radio station, I’ve a weekly sports show, Talking Me Games, with my godfather Vladimir Lozov.
The cultural environment and cultural codes in Moscow and in St. Petersburg, in Europe, pop, public. And this encoding is "your-stranger". There is a man walking between the case, mentioning some toponym: "You know, there's on Dobryninskaya or in Sokolniki ...". But these are common toponyms, they are for everyone. And when we meet with you somewhere in a foreign land and discuss how we miss the smell of a pie-ho on a cold October morning, only we understand each other! And this is an intimate process, our little community. When I see my man, as you know, the prisoners were determined by their nails after each other, and we recognize ourselves according to our memories of the Far East. The kitchen, again, its own.
It's funny when he lived in Moscow, the feeling of patriotism manifested itself in small things. One day I invited my Moscow friends to dinner with me and said that my father had given me a fern, about five kilograms. I have soaked it, I fry it with pork, I tell the boys, take a bottle, come, today I will have exclusively Far Eastern cuisine, I'll treat you to a fried fern with pork, I'll cook potatoes. They say - oh, fern, the main dish, and how does it stick out? They thought that this is some kind of Far Eastern drug, which we use and bastard! That is, they do not even imagine that the fern can be eaten. But when you feed, they become fans of the fern.
I am now leaving the food theme more, because it is close to me, and besides, I haven’t had dinner today (laughs). In the west, people drink a foamy drink with roach and ram. Nothing is more disgusting than vobla and ramming can not be, they stink of a river, stink of swamp, they are inconveniently disassembled, it's terrible! I treated my Moscow friends again, again referred to me by relatives of the Sakhalin cat smelt. They swallowed this vobla - I swear - they never ate again! She became disgusted with them, they realized that they needed to eat. And coho, of course, treated, backs.
In the Far East, we do not even have any specific words, so many things, which in principle do not exist in the west. This, for example, wild garlic, fern. In the west, all speak red caviar and red fish, and we just have fish and just caviar. In Moscow, a dialogue is possible: -I told the parents of the caviar. "And red or black?" We, in the Far East, if we want to say - black caviar, we say - black caviar, and if we are talking just caviar, then by default we mean red. To learn the Far East in the west you can use toponyms related to cities. Any Fifth pad in Khabarovsk, Churkin in Vladivostok, Bricks in Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky. In the dictionary we have the epithet "coyly", but in Moscow they do not say so. Then - a trip to the sea. We when we speak Thailand - we mean Thailand, we do not speak, when we go to Thailand, that we went to the sea. And when we talk at sea, we always mean Japanese, because no one will go to Okhotsk to rest. Much is connected with China, hence the lexicon: chifanka, kunya, pomogayka. You can remember about the criminal encoding, all of these our authorities, such as Crab, Jem, it's also our memes.
Project "Alley": show me your Khabarovsk
I will tell about my film projects. Initially, in 2015, our studio received an order for a program about the city, which is democratic and interesting for ourselves, without praise songs. We had the name "Alley". The first season of “Alley” was released on the money of the municipality of Khabarovsk in 2015, the second season was financed by Dal-TV broadcaster.
It is very difficult to describe in words why you love your city. And I love. When you ask, and for what, you understand that in no sense this feeling, no matter if it is to the city, to the woman, you cannot describe. Just love because you love. But still interesting to dig, but for what? I thought: how can one show Khabarovsk’s love for Khabarovsk? And he began to look for a form. And I came up with this: everyone has their own city. Only among the officials, unfortunately, it is the same, some kind of card postcard a couple of places. And, you know what is the saddest thing in these postcard areas? They are not associated with anything, except that the bridge with the five thousandth note. It's a shame that there are a lot of luxurious objects, but in themselves they are not interesting and do not carry any load, be it a monument or some kind of building. Even the most beautiful - it is meaningless. But as soon as you have a story connected with this place personally, it immediately makes sense! Even if this is my story, and I am telling it to you, this place also starts to be connected with something to you.
Total 20 releases of our almanac, respectively, about 20-ti heroes. I asked everyone: why is it worth living here? In general, the main idea was - not why they did not leave, but why they remained. For “Avenue”, I took relatively well-known Khabarovsk, speaking, media, so that they were interesting to the viewer. The very first hero was Yura Savochkin with a boutique “Ikra”, who was making a revolution in the field of branding in Khabarovsk, now Yuri, by the way, lives in Workers' Town. Also, Sergei Hvolynsky, the chief editor of the Khabarovsk Space, so he left, by the way. They did it with big Max, who sings, Ivan Verbitsky, the leader, our star, KVN-shchik, the former. Jan Jan-Sha was as an artist, was Roman Avilov with Emilia Khmelenko, the creators of the "Braindo" sect. Alexey Chechelev was, the head of the press service of the hockey club "Amur", also the most stark film with him turned out. I had the conductor of the military band Taras Yurichin, who plays Lady Gaga and all sorts of innovations at the Amur Waves festival. Here he showed me Khabarovsk musical, the way Khabarovsk sounds. That is, different heroes showed how Khabarovsk sings, how Khabarovsk sounds, how Khabarovsk smells, and so on. And none of them had a provincial complex. Usually, when a person tries to tell about his city on the periphery, he says: "Yes, it’s not worse than in Moscow, but it’s better than in Moscow." And for each of my heroes, Khabarovsk is good in itself. But in the movie as it happens? There is money - there is a movie, there is no money - there is no movie. Now there is no money at the “Alley”, but if we find them, then the third season will be and I even have ideas on this.
"We climbed to the Far East"
Another one of our projects is called the "Return Point". He is talking about the Far East. This is a festival of amateur-based amateur films, which we are conducting this year for the third time. How did he think? Movies, reports, all this was already, and we decided to try the genre of feature films. Take as a basis the real history, if necessary, for greater interest in bringing something of its own. We thought: but let the people who live in Khabarovsk and consider that they can make a movie, we will offer to record their stories. Business smelled of some serious event. Film Festival! Chudnenko. In 2015, there were five films with a story about how a person left, and then something attracted him back here, and he stayed. That is, we tell you at what point the return occurred.
At the second festival in 2016 year were just real stories that occurred in Khabarovsk. We learned that amateur cinema in general is very actively filmed in the Far East. And this season we decided to aim at the Far East, applied for a presidential grant, which are distributed every year. We were given 2 million rubles. We climbed to the Far East. In the finals we will have two competitive programs, these are films that were filmed specially for the festival, and films shot in 2015-2017 years, suitable for the topic. Now we have 11 films in the finals. Geography: Khabarovsk, Komsomolsk-on-Amur, Magadan, Yakutsk, Vladivostok, Spassk-Dalniy, district named after Polina Osipenko of the Khabarovsk Territory, the village of Palana in the Kamchatka Territory, etc. Theme "Real and completely unrealistic stories that happened or could happen only in the Far East". Actors, directors, videographers, editors, screenwriters are all non-professionals, this is the main criterion for passing to the "Return Point". Our participants are students, Yakut peasants, children from the camp "Sozvezdie", extreme motorcyclists, office managers, railwaymen, that's what theaters are. Films for the most part are extra-genre, conditionally speaking, arthouse. This season there are two attempts to shoot comedies.
More than half of the films we screened at the stage of synopsis. Of course, we do not take them all. Personally, I really liked the seaside stories. For example, one comedy from Vladivostok residents "What the cars are silent about." The story of how a man went crazy and started to hear his car. He was frightened, went to the psychotherapists, changed the car, bought a new car, and talked with him again. The trick was that only Japanese cars spoke to him and only in Russian. As a result, he buys Moskvich old Soviet dug, and he does not talk to him ... And what was in the end, I will not spoil - look at the festival. And also the girls from Primorye came up with the film "Dolphin and the Mermaid." The plot is as follows: Vladivostok girl brought her boyfriend, who is from Moscow, to get acquainted with his parents. Before acquaintance with her father, she drives her chosen one through the "Primorsko-Russian dictionary". For example, where we say "vichotka", in the west they say "bast". The guy learned the exam, came to visit, very worried. His father begins to regale him with all sorts of seaside delicacies: Chinese vodka with a snake, choko-pai, mega hot Chinese noodles and Korean cabbage kim-chi and so on. The young man needs to pass this test, but he fails it, and the father turns the daughter's boyfriend into a crab. The girl says: "Daddy, well, let's not be so strict towards my fiancés, I will never marry like that!" Opens the refrigerator, and there are already a bunch of crabs. Khabarovsk is rather weak this year. The story of Polina Osipenko is based on real events. She's talking about a dog that was left alone on the Shantars, she survived, ate berries, hunted, and eventually she was taken home. I was struck by performing skills from the Yakuts. Even among fans there is an approach at a high level. They have guys who shoot a feature film, they then roll it in local cinemas and even go on a plus. But we do not take such people to the festival, but only amateurs, but their fans are noticeably stronger than ours.
All bearers of the diagnosis “short cinema of the brain” and just cinema lovers are invited to the Far East festival of fiction amateur cinema "Return Point"-2017 28-30 September in Sovkino, Khabarovsk.
Admission to all events is free.
Finally I will add: our festival is not about cinema at all. The formula is tricky and simple at the same time: if we make a movie, then we live here, and it's interesting, so interesting that you can even shoot about this movie, you know? I made a choice. I walk through this land and everything is mine: every wall, every blade of grass and every building knows me. Live where you kayfovo, friends.