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Sergei Nosov: "Not wizards, but learn"
Governor of the Magadan region on what surprised him Kolyma and why the gold-bearing soil does not work magic spells
- Sergey Konstantinovich, you are from Magnitogorsk, from the Urals, worked in Nizhny Tagil. In the Far East, people are relatively new. Why you were appointed the head of the working group, which was engaged in the preparation of the State Council for Far Eastern issues? What did you see with your "fresh eye"?
- My candidacy was suggested by Yuriy Petrovich Trutnev, the president and his administration gave their consent. Why - you need to ask them, not me. But, perhaps, the calculation was precisely that the new person has "an eye not zamylenny", he can see what other people are used to and do not notice.
So far, it seems to me, the meaning of the words said by the president has not fully reached the majority: "The Far East is our priority of the 21st century". However, the most distant region of Russia can really play the role of the locomotive of the world economy, the guarantor of stability throughout the world. The question is the correct approach to solving his problems. By the way, on the forum it felt very strong. Especially when representatives of not only Russia, but also other countries - China, Japan shared their thoughts ... The president, when he sets ambitious goals before us, thinks globally, geopolitically, but it is quite realistic. It remains for us to support him to the best of his strength and character.
- And what was the most surprising thing for you in Magadan Oblast, where you are now not "vrio", but the legally elected governor (with which you sincerely congratulate)?
- Practically complete lack of industry. Despite the fact that heavy industry in the Magadan region a few decades ago was. It is enough to recall the history of the region, to look at old photos. Yes, the local plants are not the size of Uralmash, but they worked! But after the shock of the 90, the Far East was recovering much more difficult and slower than the European part of the country, the central regions. There are many reasons for this, both objective and subjective. The result is obvious. We are now more difficult than anyone else.
But there are problems that can not be called otherwise than "wild." Starting with air travel, which has long been talking on high tones. How is this possible: from Magadan to Chukotka by plane two hours drive. And we spend sixteen, because we have to fly through Moscow, there are no direct flights. It turns out that a private company declares a whole region "unprofitable," and the state quietly agrees with this. What is the economy there, what are the priorities there, what is the 21st century ... In any other country in the world, such a problem can be solved, but we somehow do not. In my opinion, we just need to figure out how private companies use state support, and then re-evaluate and reevaluate much. The President spoke very clearly during the State Council on this issue. In contrast to high officials, who with all their strength evaded from direct answers to his questions.
- If we talk about the quality of people's lives, can we compare the Far East and the Urals in general - for example, Nizhny Tagil and Magadan?
- Magadan itself somehow lends itself to such a comparison with other major cities. But the district centers were not even close. What you see there is terrible. Empty orbits of houses with broken glasses. Desolation. Off-road ...
- Even before your arrival, Magadan region was in the top three most drinking regions of Russia. Is there any hope of solving this problem in the foreseeable future?
- There is a problem, and it is sharp enough. Force measures or prohibitions will not help here. This is a tangle that needs to be unraveled from different sides. It is necessary to create conditions for a person to find a decent job, start playing sports, get into the taste of a normal, healthy life, so that he has goals and a desire to reach them. A good book alone or a clever TV show is not enough for this. The goal of the state is to make people want and could live in civilized conditions, had diverse interests and opportunities.
- Magadan Oblast is the only region of DFD, where there is no territory for advanced development. You do not need to have TOPs?
- There are plans for their creation, but first we need to properly prepare the projects and documentation. In itself, the TOP is not an end in itself, it is important to get a full return from it. We are preparing to develop a tourist destination, that is, small and medium-sized businesses. And in any region, the growth of tourism is a very good indicator of how matters stand with the local economy. Tourists will go only to where the quality of life and the level of service will be at a high enough level.
We have to develop tourist infrastructure in such a way as to combine resort vacations, and active hiking, and ecological tours, and educational trips, for example, to gold mining enterprises. Moreover, the tourist must be "transferred" from region to region so that he can see as much as possible in the Far East during his vacation - since he has spent a lot of money on an air ticket. Huge variety of experiences! Vladivostok is, consider, the south, the weather in it is like in Sochi. In Kamchatka - hunting and fishing, mountain skiing in winter ... There is something to see. But again, there are problems of air travel, tickets, logistics, hotels and so on.
- Who should create such an infrastructure - business or state?
- Together. The way it was done in Vietnam, Korea or China. The issues of such a partnership apply not only to the tourism sector - to everyone else too. In order for business to come and gain a foothold in the region, the state must create starting conditions for it and set an example. The private investor is not like Buratino. He does not believe that if five gold coins are buried in the Field of Miracles and the magic spell "krex-pex-fex" is said over them, golden trees will grow there by morning. He keeps his money and chooses where it is more comfortable to do business. Why feed a midge and build something in an open field if more favorable conditions are shining elsewhere? It is at this moment that the state must offer them. By the way, the Republic of Tatarstan is already successfully following this path. If you were at the WEF session with the participation of the Republic of Korea, you probably heard about the example of the Posco company. She bought shares in a metallurgical plant that the state had built in the city of Choboli specifically for subsequent sale. Thus, it was possible to provide the growing Korean auto industry with its own metal. When the enterprise is ready on a turnkey basis, private business will gladly buy it, and banks will finance the deal. But private traders are unable to start such construction projects. Too expensive and too risky.
"As far as I know, you are a metallurgist in the fourth generation." Are you ready to apply your knowledge to the governor's post?
- This, of course, is not the main thing that I should do, but ... There is iron ore in the Far East. And in the Amur region, and in Yakutia, and in Magadan, too. It is clear that gold is a priority. But if there is an enterprise "Amurstal" and its own resources - it is foolish to import all the exorbitant from the outside. Nobody prevents us from producing our own fittings, pipes, sheets and so on.
- What would you like to see the Magadan region at the end of your governor's term?
- Let's be realistic. Hardly in five years something will change, as if by magic. But I see examples of other regions or cities, where everyday painstaking work gradually allows to achieve tangible changes for the better. I consider it my minimum task to lay the foundation, the foundation for the development of the Magadan Region, fifty years ahead. Not until 2024 year, but much further. Not for nothing that the Far East was called the priority of the whole XXI century, and not one or two decades. From this we will proceed. I am confident that our efforts will help move forward and confidently move forward.